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Re: [DNSOP] One Chair's comments on draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Fri, 03 August 2018 03:55 UTC

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From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] One Chair's comments on draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest
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> On 3 Aug 2018, at 1:36 pm, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> 
>> That only works for validating resolvers. ZONEMD also is useful for non-validating resolvers.
> 
>> A non-validating resolver doesn't have a validated cache.
> 
> The internet is no place for spoofable data in any kind of protocol.
> 
> I don't think the IETF should provide DNS-without-DNSSEC solutions,
> just like we don't do SHA1 or MD5 or IKEv1 or TLS 1.0 anymore.
> 
> We should not make things more complicated to allow for dnssecless.
> 
> A non-validating resolver is on its own. Nothing can save it.
> 
> Paul

+1.

We don’t need to split out the hash from the signature.
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