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Re: [DNSOP] [External] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts

"Andrew M. Hettinger" <AHettinger@Prominic.NET> Thu, 27 February 2020 22:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [External] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc drafts
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"DNSOP" <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org> wrote on 02/27/2020 11:12:50:

> From: "Matthijs Mekking" <matthijs@pletterpet.nl>
> To: dnsop@ietf.org
> Date: 02/27/2020 11:13
> Subject: Re:  [External]  [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc
drafts
> Sent by: "DNSOP" <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org>
>
>
>
> On 2/26/20 11:28 PM, Andrew M. Hettinger wrote:
> > "DNSOP" <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org> wrote on 02/26/2020 08:34:55:
> >
> >> From: "Vladimír Čunát" <vladimir.cunat+ietf@nic..cz>
> >> To: "dnsop@ietf.org WG" <dnsop@ietf.org>
> >> Cc: "Andrew M. Hettinger" <AHettinger@Prominic.NET>
> >> Date: 02/26/2020 08:35
> >> Subject: Re:  [External]  [DNSOP] status of the aname and svcb/httpsvc
> > drafts
> >> Sent by: "DNSOP" <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org>
> >>
> >> On 2/25/20 8:07 PM, Andrew M. Hettinger wrote:
> >> > Frankly, you've got it exactly the wrong way around: even with
httpsvc
> >> > speced out completely, it will take time for it to be deployed to
> >> > browsers. That's assuming you can get enough buying from (mostly)
> >> > google to even make it happen at all.
> >>
> >> I don't think it's so simple.  The current ANAME draft specifies new
> >> behavior for resolvers, and there I'd expect even slower overall
> >> upgrades/deployment than in browsers.  Also I'm unsure how big a part
of
> >> authoritative implementations will want to do ANAME expansion.  (It
> >> seems unlikely for "our" Knot DNS, for example.)
> >>
> >
> > Is there actually a commitment from browser makers to implement it?
>
> ANAME and its proprietary friends try to solve the issue it within the
> DNS, so there is no need for commitment from browser makers.
>
> - Matthijs
>

I was talking about httpssvc, obviously.

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