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[DNSOP] Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-09

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Thu, 04 July 2024 21:47 UTC

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What is the reasoning behind the following?  Why not just FORMERR the request
when the option length is not zero?  How hard do we think writing a client is
that they will get sending a zero length option wrong?  What is wrong with
sending back an immediate error signal?  There is a thing of being too over
permissive which is why we have so many issues with the DNS today.

3.2. Responders

“A name server MUST ignore invalid ZONEVERSION options present in the
query message.”


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