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Re: [DNSOP] Questions on draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 31 July 2020 03:56 UTC

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From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Questions on draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only
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In article <alpine.LRH.2.23.451.2007301630050.418549@bofh.nohats.ca> you write:
>Seems like .org needs to update an 18+ year old operation policy, and
>just to clarify that has nothing to do with this draft as .org already
>has this problem.

I believe that every public contracted TLD does the same sort of
suspensions that .ORG does since they all have similar contracts. I
wouldn't bs surprised if a lot of ccTLDs do too, since many have their
policies similar to the gTLD ones.

Having just come back from yet another fight over DMARC, I am
extremely unsympathetic to arguments along the lines of "your reality
doesn't match my clever hack, therefore your reality must change." In
this case I can't imagine the TLDs changing since that would require
changing both ICANN contracts and the complex and messy EPP system
used to manage TLDs.

I think the reasonable approach here is to stop further consideration
of this draft until Paul can survey the existing TLD practice and see
how many TLDs really are delegation-only.

R's,
John

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