Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt
Dick Franks <rwfranks@acm.org> Mon, 04 March 2019 23:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 at 23:03, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> wrote: > Ray Bellis <ray@isc.org> writes: > > > This new draft describes a way for clients and servers to exchange a > > limited amount of information where the semantics of that information > > are completely unspecified, and therefore determined by bi-lateral > > agreement between the client and server operators. > 8< What happens when the upstream software changes? Or the upstream server > is taken over by a new company that deploys entirely new semantics? How > is that change communicated to all the clients? What if the new bits > mean something entirely different, potentially the exact opposite? How > are conflicts like this handled? > The conflict never arises. As the man said, "[semantics are] determined by bi-lateral agreement". If the counter-party decides to do something different, it has repudiated the agreement. --Dick
- [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-b… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-be… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… 神明達哉
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-be… Peter van Dijk