Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME

Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com> Fri, 21 September 2018 14:55 UTC

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From: Matthew Pounsett <matt@conundrum.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 10:55:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Minimum viable ANAME
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On 21 September 2018 at 09:12, Dan York <york@isoc.org> wrote:

>
> I do think this is a path we need to go.  We need *something* like CNAME
> at the apex.  Either CNAME itself or something that works in the same way
> but might have a different name.
>

I would still like to see something SRV-like for HTTP, but I realize that's
going to be a long slog .. getting the HTTP folks on board, and getting it
defined and deployed.  I don't see any value in pursuing re-defining CNAME,
because the install-base prevents that from being useful to anyone until a
significant number of recursive resolvers are updated. So.. I think ANAME
is the short term solution we need.