[DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification for draft-tjjk-cared-00.txt
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Mon, 12 August 2024 02:43 UTC
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification for draft-tjjk-cared-00.txt
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thanks for clearing this up. tls 1.3 failures are going to be pretty common, because in non-enterprise contexts without local certificate authorities, the risk imposed by ECH will be seen as too great. i guess we'll have to let the market sort it out. -- P Vixie On Thursday, July 25, 2024 7:24:30 AM PDT Ben Schwartz wrote: > TLS 1.3 clients using ECH will not fall back to non-ECH upon unauthenticated > failure, just as TLS clients of any kind will not fall back to a lower > version upon unauthenticated failure. To control the TLS version, or the > usage of ECH, one must either control the client's behavior directly or be > able to authenticate as the TLS destination to the client's satisfaction. > In an enterprise context, the latter is often accomplished by implanting a > special local certificate authority into the client's trust store.
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Tommy Jensen
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Erik Nygren
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Tommy Jensen
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Jessica Krynitsky
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Jessica Krynitsky
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… tirumal reddy
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Ben Schwartz
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… tirumal reddy
- [DNSOP] Re: [EXTERNAL] New Version Notification f… Ben Schwartz