Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption - draft-west-let-localhost-be-localhost

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 07 September 2017 13:23 UTC

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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 09:23:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption - draft-west-let-localhost-be-localhost
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On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:59 AM, Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> I shouldn't BE FORCED to hard code special LOCALHOST rules into DNS
> tools.  Lookups should "just work" like they did before the root
> zone was signed.

Because...?