Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: I-D Action: draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00.txt]

David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Fri, 06 December 2013 15:33 UTC

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Stephane,

On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:41 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
>> With the proliferation of new TLDs, how is anyone supposed to know
>> if a TLD is a real TLD and not some pseudo-domain that looks like a
>> TLD but isn't really 
> I disagree with the use of depreciative words like "pseudo-TLD".

I intentionally used the word from RFC 6761, section 4:

"  The specification MUST state how implementations determine that the
   special handling is required for any given name.  This is typically
   done by stating that any fully qualified domain name ending in a
   certain suffix (i.e., falling within a specified parent *pseudo-
   domain*) will receive the special behaviour. [...]"

(emphasis added)

I'll observe that changing what we call it does not address the concern.

Regards,
-drc