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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt

Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com> Thu, 25 July 2019 19:20 UTC

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From: Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 15:20:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt
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<humor>
As long as we avoid 53Cr.
(One of the isotopes of chromium happens to have atomic mass of 53 - funny
coincidence, what with chrome/chromium being google things.)
(Particularly if it is hexavalent.)
</humor>
Brian

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 1:34 PM Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas=
40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> The 53U, 53T, 53UT ordering makes more sense to me, since it aligns with
> the DoH/DoT alignment of protocol indicator followed by transport indicator
> ordering.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* DNSOP <dnsop-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Paul Wouters <
> paul@nohats.ca>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2019 10:29 AM
> *To:* Evan Hunt <each@isc.org>
> *Cc:* dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action:
> draft-hoffman-dns-terminology-ter-01.txt
>
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, Evan Hunt wrote:
>
> > "Do53" is a handy abbreviation, but I'm concerned that using it as a
> > coequal peer of DoT and DoH will lead to fuzzy thinking.
>
> Indeed. U53, T53 and UT53 (or 53U, 53T, 53UT) would be far more
> informative..
>
> Paul
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