Re: [DNSOP] `localhost` and DNS.
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 15 November 2017 21:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] `localhost` and DNS.
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On Nov 15, 2017, at 10:51 PM, Mike West <mkwst@google.com> wrote: > Skimming through the recording of Monday's meeting <https://play.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/?session=IETF100-DNSOP-20171113-0930> (starting at around 53:56), it sounds to me as though there's at least loose agreement that signing a response for `localhost` is not what we'd like to recommend: all the folks who commented explicitly took that position for similar reasons. The current text in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-01#section-4.2 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-01#section-4.2> reflects this position, and IMO it's what we should run with. Yes, the current text appears to me to be correct.
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