Re: [DNSOP] 4035 3.1.4.1 erratum? dig ds root-servers.net @X.root-servers.net

神明達哉 <jinmei@wide.ad.jp> Thu, 11 January 2018 19:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] 4035 3.1.4.1 erratum? dig ds root-servers.net @X.root-servers.net
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At Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:05:00 -0800,
Ólafur Guðmundsson <olafur@cloudflare.com> wrote:

> >    That is, it answers as if it is authoritative and the DS record does
> >    not exist.  DS-aware recursive nameservers will query the parent zone
> >    at delegation points, so will not be affected by this.
> >
> I hate having my own RFC thrown at me,
> but it may or may not apply as there is another corner case that I/WG did
> not consider,
> what if the NameServer is authoritative for a zone above the parent.
> In this case it has to select does it answer from the closest zone that can
> answer DS record or
> from the zone it self.
>
> In the spirit of being helpful to recursive resolvers the right answer IMHO
> is the referral from the
> zone above the query name.

I'm not sure if I understand you so please let me be more explicit.
Are you talking about the so-called grandparent problem case, like the
case of this thread?

>> The root servers are authoritative for root-servers.net. and for . , but not for net

and, when this server gets a query for root-servers.net/DS, it should
return a referral to net instead of NODATA answer?  (If so, I'm
confused about what you said above "another corner case that I/WG did
not consider", since 2.2.1.2 of RFC3658 actually talks about that
corner case).

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JINMEI, Tatuya