Re: [DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Thu, 21 September 2017 12:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt
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Hi,

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 09:50:24PM -0700, Paul Vixie wrote:
> 
>  what we have to do is arrange to fragment, using the
> ipv6 extension header, all ipv6 udp, for a period of not less than five
> years. noone who blocks ipv6 extension headers should be able to get
> reliable ipv6 udp services. we have to make this problem felt where it is
> made. we must NOT work around it to insulate the makers of the problem from
> the costs of their actions.

I think that the above suggestion needs to define carefully who "we"
is in each sentence.  Because I am very far from convinced that the
"we" in each case is the same people, and also very far from convinced
that we are going to be able to "make" this happen, given our lack of
protocol police.  Operators have one incentive, which is to make their
customers stop calling; if our plan is to make IPv6 even less reliable
than it has been historically, I think the operators are going to point
us to the nearest short pier and tell us to take a long walk.

Best regards,

A

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