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Alain Durand <alain.durand@icann.org> Fri, 07 October 2016 18:36 UTC

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From: Alain Durand <alain.durand@icann.org>
To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] In a vacuum, nobody can hear you scream, was On the call for adoption on Special Use Names
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> On Oct 7, 2016, at 6:51 AM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> 
> f someone creates popular software leaking requests for
> .PICKLE, we can grouse all we want but since we're not the Network
> Police, there's not much we can do about it.

There is not much that can be done after the fact, I agree. However, there is something that can be done before: provide a safe place in the DNS tree where people can exist without colliding with the rest of the tree. We can't prevent people from ignoring it and keep using whatever name they want, but at least we would have provided a way to play nice. In that spirit, efforts like .alt and friends are a step in the right direction.

Alain

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