Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoptions: draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang

Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> Fri, 11 October 2019 14:03 UTC

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From: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 10:03:23 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoptions: draft-lhotka-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang
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On 10 Oct 2019, at 09:55, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>; wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> 
>> They should not actually be reading the RFC but get the latest revision of the module from this page:
>> 
>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/yang-parameters/yang-parameters.xhtml
> 
> You are asking for text to go into an RFC, which you then say they
> (implementors) should not read. Clearly then the text should not go
> into the RFC.

I'm not sure I fully understand the concern, here.

When a document instructs the IANA to create a registry, those instructions contain the initial rows that should seed the registry along with directions about how the registry is to be maintained following creation. Is this document fundamentally different from that?

Has anybody actually asked PTI what they think the best way of doing this would be?


Joe