Re: [DNSOP] A quick update on draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf / draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Fri, 19 October 2018 07:34 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 09:34:35 +0200
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] A quick update on draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf / draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
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On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:04 PM Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Dave suggested I send this out.
>
> draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf and draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix have completed
> IESG review.
> Alissa is holding a DISCUSS position on draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix -
> this can be seen here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix/ballot/
>
> Alissa (and a number of other ADs) feel that each of the (37!) updated
> documents should be classified into 2.1. (TXT RRset), 2.2. (SRV RRset)
> or 2.3. (URI RRset).
>
> Basically, we need to go through each document in draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix,
> figure out which class it falls into (TXT, SRV, URI), and add it to a list.
> We then add a sentence to each of those sections saying "Documents in this
> category include RFCxxxx, RFCyyyy, RFCzzzz".
>
> Dave has stated that he is unwilling to do this work. Instead of having
> the WG document simply stall, Benno and I have agreed that we would split
> them between us. If anyone would like to volunteer to help out, we would
> not take it amiss.
>
> Please note that this is not a normal situation - in general we expect the
> authors to deal with IESG DISCUSS (and other ballots) - but we wanted to
> move this document along.
>
> So, if you would be willing to take a few documents to classify, please go
> to this spreadsheet:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oTs8ZJy6EZdSt4NXZJbcIRd771V9Rbg9TqddE5KlLGE/edit?usp=sharing
> [0]
>
> Change the reviewer from Benno or Warren to your name **before** starting
> the review (we really don't need multiple reviews of the same document!),
> and then update the spreadsheet with what "class" of update it is. Please
> have the review done by Wednesday Oct 24th.
>
> Review help would be appreciated, but if you are not able to (I know
> people are really busy before IETF week), Benno and I will manage...
>


... and my plane was delayed by an hour, so I decided to take a start on
this - I’ve done ~20 so far, so please remember to check the spreadsheet
before starting any...

W


> W
> [0]: Posting a public link to a spreadsheet.... what could *possibly* go
> wrong!?
>
> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea
> in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
> pants.
>    ---maf
>
-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf