Return-Path: <joelja@bogus.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1E6130DFC
 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri,  2 Nov 2018 16:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.898
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5,
 URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
 by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id GmK5X6CXuFyg for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>;
 Fri,  2 Nov 2018 16:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from nagasaki.bogus.com (nagasaki.bogus.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::81])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D52B130DC5
 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Fri,  2 Nov 2018 16:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [172.20.5.232] (110-170-235-6.static.asianet.co.th
 [110.170.235.6]) (authenticated bits=0)
 by nagasaki.bogus.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id wA2N6cI0039352;
 Fri, 2 Nov 2018 23:06:43 GMT (envelope-from joelja@bogus.com)
X-Authentication-Warning: nagasaki.bogus.com: Host
 110-170-235-6.static.asianet.co.th [110.170.235.6] claimed to be
 [172.20.5.232]
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Message-Id: <8EBFB9C8-8F99-4128-A0F2-3D87DD8619F1@bogus.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="Apple-Mail=_F353790B-0115-4075-81FF-730746536575"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.0 \(3445.100.39\))
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2018 06:06:37 +0700
In-Reply-To: <CCEEBCEF-FE91-49A6-96FE-122A5E025159@isoc.org>
Cc: "dnsop@ietf.org WG" <dnsop@ietf.org>
To: Dan York <york@isoc.org>
References: <CCEEBCEF-FE91-49A6-96FE-122A5E025159@isoc.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.100.39)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/sQxcYHQ1trAuJqvxWydPQvVrVjY>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Any website publishers who use CDNs on the list?
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>,
 <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>,
 <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 23:06:47 -0000


--Apple-Mail=_F353790B-0115-4075-81FF-730746536575
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=utf-8



> On Nov 2, 2018, at 17:57, Dan York <york@isoc.org> wrote:
>=20
> Are there any other publishers of websites on this list who use CDNs =
in front of their sites - and who are interested in the whole =E2=80=9CCNA=
ME at apex=E2=80=9D issue?
>=20
> Given the ANAME discussions and other continuing =E2=80=9CCNAME at =
apex=E2=80=9D discussions, I started putting together a short draft =
clearly stating the problem statement of why we who publish websites =
want something like CNAME at apex (and why we aren=E2=80=99t happy being =
locked into proprietary solutions). =20
>=20
> The issue has been stated multiple times in different email threads =
(including by Paul Vixie just yesterday) =E2=80=A6 but I thought it =
would be useful / helpful to formally write it down in a draft during =
these discussions.

$employer hosts apex domains on an anycast service. Like all of the =
work-arounds it is a bodge, albeit one that is not explicitly =
incompatible with existing DNS practice.=20=

--Apple-Mail=_F353790B-0115-4075-81FF-730746536575
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset=utf-8

<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 2, 2018, at 17:57, Dan York &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:york@isoc.org" class=3D"">york@isoc.org</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;">Are there any other publishers of websites on this list who use =
CDNs in front of their sites - and who are interested in the whole =
=E2=80=9CCNAME at apex=E2=80=9D issue?</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">Given the ANAME discussions and other continuing =
=E2=80=9CCNAME at apex=E2=80=9D discussions, I started putting together =
a short draft clearly stating the problem statement of why we who =
publish websites want something like CNAME at apex (and why we aren=E2=80=99=
t happy being locked into proprietary solutions). &nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">The issue has been stated multiple times in =
different email threads (including by Paul Vixie just yesterday) =E2=80=A6=
 but I thought it would be useful / helpful to formally write it down in =
a draft during these discussions.</div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">$employer hosts apex domains on an anycast =
service. Like all of the work-arounds it is a bodge, albeit one that is =
not explicitly incompatible with existing DNS =
practice.&nbsp;</div></body></html>=

--Apple-Mail=_F353790B-0115-4075-81FF-730746536575--

