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Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP WG Interim June 2023 planning: draft-ietf-dnsop rfc8499bis and lame delegation

Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl> Tue, 06 June 2023 07:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP WG Interim June 2023 planning: draft-ietf-dnsop rfc8499bis and lame delegation
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Dear WG,

 From the Doodle poll, we have selected the following day and time:

Tuesday June 20, 18:00-19:00 UTC.

We will post the interim meetecho details to the mailing list later today.

Best regards,

Suzanne, Tim and Benno


On 30/05/2023 17:31, Benno Overeinder wrote:
> Hi WG,
> 
> Gentle reminder to fill in the doodle to schedule the interim in June.
> 
> Will extend the poll until Thursday, June 1!
> 
> 
> -- Benno
> 
> 
> On 24/05/2023 16:11, Benno Overeinder wrote:
>> Dear WG,
>>
>> As mentioned earlier on the mailing list, the chairs are planning an 
>> interim meeting in June to discuss the three options on how to proceed 
>> with draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis wrt. lame delegation:
>>
>> 1) Stick with the current text in the document – the original 
>> definition from RFC8499 plus a note that "These early definitions do 
>> not match the current use of the term "lame delegation", but there is 
>> no consensus on what a lame delegation is."
>> A possible follow-up to this is for someone to start a WG consensus 
>> document on "lame", which can update 8499bis.
>> 2) We still find a rough consensus on the definition proposed in the 
>> "Meaning of lame delegation" email thread, and the WG can agree that 
>> this is a definition useful to DNS engineers/operators.
>> 3) Withdraw the document from WGLC so we can add definitions.  Do not 
>> propose any new terms and definitions at this stage if we choose this 
>> option.
>>
>>
>> Please fill in the Doodle poll to settle on a day and time:
>>
>> - https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/az7Z5AOb
>>
>> The options for the time slots are a compromise for 
>> CEST/EDT/PDT/AEST/JST.
>>
>> We will close the Doodle poll at the end of Tuesday 30 May.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Suzanne, Tim and Benno
>>
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