Re: [DNSOP] FYI: draft-andrews-dnsop-defeat-frag-attack

Bob Harold <rharolde@umich.edu> Thu, 11 July 2019 14:29 UTC

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From: Bob Harold <rharolde@umich.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:28:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] FYI: draft-andrews-dnsop-defeat-frag-attack
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Thanks for explaining that.  I leave it up to you if a comment to that
affect in the draft would avoid the same question in the future.

-- 
Bob Harold

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:12 PM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:

> AAAA is the base64 encoding of 3 zero octet.  If named was using a hex
> encoding it would be 000000.
>
> --
> Mark Andrews
>
> On 11 Jul 2019, at 06:45, Bob Harold <rharolde@umich.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:21 AM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
>
>> I’ve written up a method to defeat UDP fragmentation attacks using TSIG.
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andrews-dnsop-defeat-frag-attack-00
>>
>> If we are going to discuss methods to defeat such attacks this should be
>> considered.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Andrews, ISC
>>
>
>  Looks like a useful workaround.
>
> 2. The Well Known Key
>
> The well known key has a owner name of "." and uses HMAC-SHA256
> [RFC4635] as its algorithm with a key of 256 zero bits.
>
>
> -- but later:
>
> A.1. BIND 9
>
> Add the following to named.conf. Some end-of-life versions do not
> support HMAC-SHA256.
>
> key "." {
> algorithm hmac-sha256;
> secret "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=";
> };
>
>
> -- Does a key of 256 zeros translate to a string of "A" characters?  I am
> not an expert on HMAC-SHA256.
>
> --
> Bob Harold
>
>