Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: I-D Action: draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00.txt]

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Fri, 06 December 2013 09:30 UTC

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From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: I-D Action: draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-00.txt]
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On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 10:02:18AM -0500,
 Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote 
 a message of 69 lines which said:

> If you are going to design something that looks like the DNS, but
> isn't (something that looks like an overlay / uses dot separated
> labels / "can be entered where you normally would enter an DNS
> name"),

There is no such thing as DNS name. We talk about domain names here,
domain names exist outside of the DNS (LDAP, mDNS and other resolution
protocols).

> Convincing all existing users (e.g .local) to move under the new
> labor (e.g local.alt) is probably a non-starter, but perhaps things
> like .bit, and new things may do so…

OK, then someone has to write a RFC6761-style Internet-Draft
describing .alt, reserving it and doing so before too many new
proposals pop up (because, once a name is used, it is almost
impossible to change it). Any volunteer? (Not me, because I think that
registering .alt will be as much effort as registering .anything, so
it is pointless.)