Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
Mike West <mkwst@google.com> Tue, 01 August 2017 10:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"?
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Hey Jacob, thanks for flagging this! I'm also interested in getting this draft moving again, and I'm willing to poke at it in whatever ways the group's happy with. The only open issue I know of is some discussion in the thread at https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg18690.html that I need help synthesizing into the draft. I don't know enough about the subtleties here to have a strong opinion, and I'm happy to accept the consensus of the group. Coincidental, I raised the draft again briefly with a few folks in Prague (CC'd here), and I'm hoping for some feedback about reasonable next steps. -mike On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews <jsha@eff.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in seeing > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-west-let-localhost-be-localhost-03 > move from draft status to become a standard. In particular, it would > allow browsers to start treating "localhost" as a secure context, which > would reduce attempts by application developers to abuse the public Web > PKI in order to issue certificates for localhost, which harms security. > See: > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security. > policy/T6emeoE-lCU/-k-A2dEdAQAJ > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.security.policy/eV89JXcsBC0/ > wsj5zpbbAQAJ > > What further steps are needed to move this draft along, and how can I help? > > Thanks, > Jacob > > _______________________________________________ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop >
- [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost"? Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Matthew Pounsett
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… George Michaelson
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Fwd: Status of "let localhost be localhos… william manning
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Erik Nygren
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Robert Edmonds
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Peter van Dijk
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Richard Barnes
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mike West
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… Mark Andrews
- Re: [DNSOP] Status of "let localhost be localhost… John R Levine