Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-03

Chris Thompson <cet1@cam.ac.uk> Tue, 14 July 2015 14:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology-03
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On Jul 13 2015, Casey Deccio wrote:

>I have a few comments on the latest draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-terminology
>(-03).  There will be more; I'm part way through a review.

[snip]

>>3. The current text for referral is incomprehensible.  I suggest the
>following:

[snip again]

>Historically, many authoritative servers answered with a referral to the
>root zone when queried for a name for which they were not authoritative,
>but this practice has declined.

[I know this part was copied from the existing draft, but ...]

Surely this should be "for a name for which they were not authoritative,
nor for any of its ancestors" ?

Also, as such a response is undoubtedly still legal, maybe this ought
to mention what the common(er) practice now is - presumably REFUSED.

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Chris Thompson
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