Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP (was Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http)
"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Wed, 13 July 2016 14:42 UTC
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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:42:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP (was Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http)
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> why all that complexity? if some remote device (iot thingy) wants 'dns over > http' why would it not (as a first order answer) just ask > /cgi-bin/dnslookup for 'srv:foo.com' ? (returned answer in txt, json, > etc...) > > why bother with a bunch of javascript tomfoolery? Security in IoT is close to an oxymoron, but my device would like to check the signature before trusting what your proxy says. Also, as I mentioned in another message, unless you plan to carefully maintain your proxy to handle and translate every rrtype, we're going to want to use rr's that it doesn't handle. I suppose it might return a json blob of TYPE1234, but you might as well just send the binary stuff at that point. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail.
- [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Davey Song (宋林健)
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Tomoyuki Sahara
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… Christopher Morrow
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… Tony Finch
- [DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Davey Song (宋林健)
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… Allan Liska
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… Ted Lemon
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… Allan Liska
- Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] The case for the UDP flag on DNS-over… John Levine
- [DNSOP] JavaScript use case for DNS-over-HTTP (wa… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Paul Hoffman
- [DNSOP] The case for the UDP flag on DNS-over-HTT… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Shane Kerr
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Paul Wouters
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Tony Finch
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Marek Vavruša
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… Adrien de Croy
- Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wir… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wirefor… Tim Wicinski