Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-powerbind

Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Fri, 01 May 2020 23:51 UTC

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From: Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
To: Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-pwouters-powerbind
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Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> writes:

> Anyway, I am fairly confident in saying that there are legitimate,
> normal operational processes that can result in orphan glue, and that
> it's not correct to infer that they all exist for reasons of poor
> hygiene.

For the record: I certainly (and I doubt Paul) envisioned that this
draft would be useful and deployable to every possible
TLD/registration-point.  It, hopefully, will be desired by some.

Though ones that want to "convert" hanging glue in their zone to something that this
draft could accommodate should be able to insert a new zone NS and
delegate to their own servers with a new zone (and new dnskey).  The odd
corner case someone mentioned is if the NS record was pointing to
company.example, rather than ns1.company.example or something.  Then
there is the interesting discussed question of whether company.example
can delegate an NS to its own name [curious minds want to know].

-- 
Wes Hardaker
USC/ISI