Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit

Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> Thu, 21 November 2019 08:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit
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Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net> writes:

> > I think our simplest and most appealing option would be to treat EDE
> > exactly like any existing EDNS Option (i.e. set the TC bit).
> 
> For the record, I'm just fine with this.  People that *want* a separate
> signal should speak up please and voice their reasons why having just
> the TC bit is unacceptable too.
> 
> We need to come to a decision about this, and that will require everyone
> with an opinion to chime in.

Actually, I forgot that one of the primary reasons for separating it was
that EDE can go forward and the need for TC/DP bits can be debated
longer if need be.

So...  anyone that thinks something like the DP bit is needed *and*
should be tied to EDE should speak up.  Please.

-- 
Wes Hardaker
USC/ISI