[DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidated Data during DNSSEC Troubleshooting (draft-zhang-dnsop-dnssec-unvalidated-data-00)
Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Wed, 07 May 2025 17:13 UTC
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidated Data during DNSSEC Troubleshooting (draft-zhang-dnsop-dnssec-unvalidated-data-00)
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On Wed, 7 May 2025, 张淑涵 wrote: > It’s my honor to share our recently submitted draft titled “Handling Unvalidated Data during DNSSEC Troubleshooting” (draft-zhang-dnsop-dnssec-unvalidated-data-00). > Draft link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-dnsop-dnssec-unvalidated-data/ > > Given the design complexity and the prevalence of misconfigurations of DNSSEC, many DNS resolvers support troubleshooting mechanisms by the public, during which the > received DNS data are not enforced to be validated. However, as this draft demonstrated, this could open a new attack surface, where attackers can abuse the > troubleshooting mechanism to inject forged data to the resolver’s cache, and trigger persistent domain resolution failure due to the reuse of the cached unvalidated > data. To mitigate such risk, this draft proposes recommendations for DNSSEC-validating resolvers on how to cache and reuse DNS data introduced during DNSSEC > troubleshooting. This draft indicates that the data intended for troubleshooting can have severe but overlooked impact on the routine functioning of DNS. Hence, it > aims to raise the community’s awareness on handling DNSSEC troubleshooting data with more cautious, so as to prevent any potential abuse. I think DNS resolvers are already handling this properly? paul@bofh:~$ dig +cd +short dnssec-failed.org 96.99.227.255 paul@bofh:~$ dig +short dnssec-failed.org paul@bofh:~$ > Summary of key points: > > - Clarification of unvalidated data in DNSSEC, as a complement to RFC 4033-4035 I'm not sure if this is unclear? > - Demonstration of a new Denial-of-Service attack surface on DNSSEC-validating resolvers due to their reuse of cached unvalidated data Which DNS resolvers are currently misimplementing things for this to be a concern? Paul > - Recommendations on how to cache and reuse DNSSEC-unvalidated data to mitigate the DoS risk > > > > We welcome feedback from the community. We would be happy to discuss this in a future DNSOP session. > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Shuhan Zhang > > Tsinghua University > > >
- [DNSOP] [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidated D… 张淑涵
- [DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidat… Paul Wouters
- [DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidat… Ondřej Surý
- [DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidat… Mark Andrews
- [DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidat… Philip Homburg
- [DNSOP] Re: [dnsop] New Draft: Handling Unvalidat… zhangsh