Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial-01.txt
Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com> Thu, 07 April 2022 15:49 UTC
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From: Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 16:48:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial-01.txt
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On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 14:48, Paul Vixie <paul=40redbarn.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > because IXFR and NOTIFY and UPDATE use serial numbers, the DNS protocol > itself is aware of serial numbers. i hope that any recognition of > non-traditional serial numbers will be an optional addition to the > RRSERIAL response, and that if a zone has no actual serial number (so, > it cannot participate in IXFR, NOTIFY, and UPDATE) the RRSERIAL value > will just be a magic number like zero, or just missing altogether. > Magic numbers are messy. Zero-length option preferred, same as the outbound request. Need explicit statement somewhere that zero-length response means that IXFR, NOTIFY, and UPDATE are not supported. Not keen on the implementation-specific blob idea, which is of little use to the general user. Implementers and power users will already have more appropriate debugging tools. --Dick
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Petr Špaček
- [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial-01.… internet-drafts
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Hugo Salgado
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Hugo Salgado
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Hugo Salgado
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Joe Abley
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Dick Franks
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Petr Špaček
- Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rrserial… Hugo Salgado