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[24.91.177.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 11sm7266794qkc.91.2020.10.26.13.09.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Oct 2020 13:09:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Lemon Message-Id: <4EBB9789-EDA8-418F-898F-3A2D0B3C5CC2@fugue.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E40B93C3-E43C-48D3-BA8A-8A18DE9093CC" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.0.3.2.91\)) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:09:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20201026200538.GA1328776@puck.nether.net> Cc: Toerless Eckert , dnsop , kaduk@mit.edu To: Jared Mauch References: <20201025192456.GG48111@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <539093D8-97C4-448F-A9C4-288C2586BC51@fugue.com> <20201026165915.GA40654@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <41920477-8979-49EC-9F14-11A100D622FF@fugue.com> <6D931ED7-7A34-4E9D-B2CC-D2F555D79E0B@puck.nether.net> <20201026174221.GC40654@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <20201026200538.GA1328776@puck.nether.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.0.3.2.91) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP: question about hardening "something like mDNS" against attacks X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:09:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E40B93C3-E43C-48D3-BA8A-8A18DE9093CC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Oct 26, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: >> If the anwer of the experts is "do not harden implementations of = existing protocols", >> but only improve protocols or eliminate security risks from = underlays, i think >> that is not a good strategy to show to implementors trying to = understand how >> to best harden existing protocols, but i will happily take that = guidance >> and remove the text about the suggested heuristics. The point of my answer was not =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80=99t do anything to = harden it,=E2=80=9D but rather =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80=99t do _that_.=E2=80=9D = :) --Apple-Mail=_E40B93C3-E43C-48D3-BA8A-8A18DE9093CC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 On = Oct 26, 2020, at 4:05 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
If the anwer of the experts is "do = not harden implementations of existing protocols",
but = only improve protocols or eliminate security risks from underlays, i = think
that is not a good strategy to show to implementors = trying to understand how
to best harden existing = protocols, but i will happily take that guidance
and = remove the text about the suggested = heuristics.

The point of my answer was not =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80=99t do = anything to harden it,=E2=80=9D but rather =E2=80=9Cdon=E2=80=99t do = _that_.=E2=80=9D  :)

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