Re: [DNSOP] I'm an idiot -- draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 03 October 2019 15:08 UTC

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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 11:08:35 -0400
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To: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I'm an idiot -- draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv
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Thanks Warren.

What I've been told is "the IETF doesn't mark enough documents Historic to
standardize the workflow".

Poor Camel

Tim


On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 11:06 AM Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> Hi there all,
>
> To obsolete DLV I was using the Option 2 of the "Designating RFCs as
> Historic" process - this involves copying the text of the supporting
> draft into the "status-change" document, and then making the
> supporting draft as Dead.
>
> Unfortunately I missed something obvious --
> draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv also updates RFC 6698 and RFC 6840; by
> copying the text into the status-change document, there is nothing
> left to actually *do* the updates. So, with apologies to the authors /
> WG, can you please resubmit draft-ietf-dnsop-obsolete-dlv with:
> 1: RFC 6698, RFC 6840 listed in the "Updates" header
> 2: Update the abstract to say "This document updates RFC 6698 by
> excluding the DLV resource record from certificates, and updates RFC
> 6840 by excluding the DLV registries from the  trust anchor
> selection." (or something similar)
> 3: Marking this as Std Track (we are updating Std Track RFCs)
>
> I will then redo the IETF LC (because we moved from Informational to Std
> Track).
>
> Sorry for not catching this (and thanks to Alvaro for noticing it),
> W
>
> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
>    ---maf
>
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