Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 24 July 2018 16:00 UTC

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From: Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 12:00:18 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] howto "internal"
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At my employer we use real domains, but do not expose them to the outside
world (they just see 127.0.0.1).   It's a better than inverting  security
through obscurity like I have seen elsewhere (not that you would do
that Andreas).

Paul,  I am not with 100% love of the .alt name./idea but I do agree that
if we don't do something the Real Users (tm) will do something even more
broken and horrific.

Tim

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote:

> Petr Špaček <petr.spacek@nic.cz> wrote:
> >
> > My operational experience indicates that it is easiest to just use
> > "corp.example.com.", "office.example.com.", or even "i.example.com.".
>
> We use private.cam.ac.uk.
>
> > Nice thing is that this approach doesn't require:
> > - views
>
> We have an empty version of private.cam.ac.uk in an external view,
> originally set up to avoid problems with CAA checking for X.509
> certificates. It also massively reduces retries for REFUSED queries from
> outside. (Our qps went down by about 50% when we introduced this view!)
>
> > - forwarding
>
> However you do still need forwarding (or stealth secondarying) for RFC1918
> reverse DNS. Catalog zones make stealth secondaries almost as easy as
> forwarding to set up and maintain :-)
>
> > - explicit trust anchor (if you want DNSSEC inside internal network)
> >
> > and generally just works :-)
>
> Tony.
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