Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt

Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com> Tue, 05 March 2019 09:00 UTC

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From: Dick Franks <rwfranks@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 08:59:56 +0000
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt
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On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 08:13, Ray Bellis <ray@bellis.me.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 04/03/2019 23:03, Wes Hardaker wrote:
>
> > Hmmm..  very interesting idea, but I'm having a hard time seeing how
> > this will be used in the real world in a scalable and interoperable
> > way.
>
> The use cases on the open internet are probably less interesting than
> those were client and server have a more tightly coupled relationship.
>

+1


> I suggest that I add a sentence or two about applicability, constraining
> it to those where the client has tight coupling (be that topologically
> or contractually) to a particular set of servers.
>

The present wording already provides the necessary constraint; being
exclusively between the [exactly two] parties to the agreement.

What is there to not understand about the term "bi-lateral agreement".

--Dick