Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-05.txt

"Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com> Mon, 26 March 2018 18:44 UTC

Return-Path: <kurta@drkurt.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 561F2127136 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.7
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=drkurt.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DUpz59HzFLmv for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-lf0-x22f.google.com (mail-lf0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6B731200F1 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-lf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id j68-v6so29631678lfg.13 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drkurt.com; s=20130612; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=YApsPK7XZaBlpux5az69ciG46lTnEyRS4iwGwIvizk8=; b=AakgFtDDsojHbX2R38Nnnh5Roj0CEz8Jv847dbtr4Nag01zaGv9vYMdEwhSjCU982U mGQTBScQDgYCds1o/9YiPXWYPpGEiweH8BFvK8YyYYcR/xtAtlvDd8rOaM6ASUGjQySS Hhx+wtS60JggLCHHC/cX3w+eBiI8xblHhREy8=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YApsPK7XZaBlpux5az69ciG46lTnEyRS4iwGwIvizk8=; b=mfusX+tXqvnh2haEWgpu5w/WOKBaRaHbxjpJYu7usZoFjih7PeZeb/HSc+fH5A0BLl VFQ8Be4VGBMF5Kd0I/Zuj/XhAvsUix4udI95qGYgEQR+Hk7eI6jfYiWkoAPA2Xzj0qsQ DkfCwX2ckQWO/hBPOPEP1i6uBFWgkdlFq0tpYOc9NU+ljxKW9Vzr441BzE4oZzPjjoPM ZP+obwDecvqmtVgyOvqWITIB45u0ZCLqtOW4YXESGAMe0MxR3WYJj+mb0u+tFD+zge8S d54HL4SLFeR2oHVlaqhXrntVudDrVZr8hlbSkInLfTCw2AVnCTAs7XW7VD+Vpr4GSagk dtDQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7Eo1NwjE2vqRxElBu5Pgl19noafW73pfrFEPzrPOQHMOuz/vWGN i7OKZs/AOb9I2Dqhh8uVdw5ZUZfYzD/5msg84fohjj8+
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx49eVoH5TOwAOq/eCI1fvAqu9lGsYvFFLABgmKpHsNBvzV2IHxpTLXk4jqzMCDtr7LV0XB+I90/wbgpMNNrt5Mw=
X-Received: by 10.46.135.82 with SMTP id q18mr6686164ljj.121.1522089842690; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Sender: kurta@drkurt.com
Received: by 2002:a19:e504:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:01 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <0DC55A40A5F920C5F41AB044@PSB>
References: <f7b85bac-b050-5003-2df0-a48b1ef2f929@dcrocker.net> <e1f41670-ada8-eaac-468c-c712b338a10b@dcrocker.net> <alpine.OSX.2.21.1803201804440.8940@dhcp-8344.meeting.ietf.org> <A7711F58-5145-49E8-9158-B2F94D0EABBF@redbarn.org> <7c168dc1-2ea7-d47e-78b7-0380e5d0aa84@dcrocker.net> <alpine.OSX.2.21.1803211104210.9553@ary.local> <5244d327-f8ea-1590-c663-1d92e0b194c4@dcrocker.net> <5F44FA5B42805C52479DE491@PSB> <alpine.OSX.2.21.1803211507380.9666@dhcp-935d.meeting.ietf.org> <1DF1564CC2B88726B2B54CF4@PSB> <5AB89C4C.7090300@redbarn.org> <4C79BE1080735A41C8697C8D@PSB> <alpine.OSX.2.21.1803260915260.19119@ary.local> <0DC55A40A5F920C5F41AB044@PSB>
From: "Kurt Andersen (b)" <kboth@drkurt.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:44:01 -0700
X-Google-Sender-Auth: iesvjJ64RxHEZ-GLLJ1nLcJYWpc
Message-ID: <CABuGu1qZuqtH5qntOhsOZYXXQX8ZkBpMuKmBL3egiiazwLwmWw@mail.gmail.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>, art@ietf.org, dnsop@ietf.org
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="883d24f2192063e7300568552815"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/vTUe4e5cywXnP1QrO_C6dluYt3E>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-05.txt
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:44:07 -0000

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:38 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>; wrote:

>
> . . .Table 1 of the I-D is
>
>       +-------------+-----+------------+
>       | _NODE NAME  | RR  | REFERENCE  |
>       +-------------+-----+------------+
>       | _tcp        | SRV | [RFC2782]  |
>       | _udp        | SRV | [RFC2782]  |
>       | _sctp       | SRV | [RFC2782]  |
>       | _dccp       | SRV | [RFC2782]  |
>       | _domainkey  | TXT | [RFC6376]  |
>       | _spf        | TXT | [RFC7208]  | <-----
>       | _dmarc      | TXT | [RFC7489]  |
>       | _vouch      | TXT | [RFC5518]  |
>       +-------------+-----+------------+
>
> The inclusion of "_spf" in this table is worrisome. RFC7208 uses it as an
example only, not as a defined item. If one were to take all such sample
usages, we would also have to define _foo and _bar. I'm sure that some of
the passive DNS folks could provide a lot more "_" terms that are currently
in use.

--Kurt