Re: [DNSOP] Key Management and Provisioningl was Re: .PR ...

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 15 September 2009 01:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Key Management and Provisioningl was Re: .PR ...
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In message <4AAE607E.9020700@nic.pr>, Technical Support writes:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> We're sorry for all the inconvenience this issue has caused. Regarding 
> the rollover procedure, we did follow it by using a double signature in 
> the rollover phase. The new keys are posted at 
> http://dnssec.nic.pr/trust_keys.php instead of 
> "http://dnssec.nic.pr/serverconf.php" as listed in one of the posts. 
> Also, an email was sent to our mailing list. Even though we didn't 
> upload the new keys in a timely manner and the maintenance key rollover 
> script removed the old keys from the zones, our rollover didn't last 2 
> days.

It effectively lasted 2 day for ITAR users.  The new key was added
on the 1st and the old key removed on the 3rd.  The total rollover
was 16 days.

> We are looking forward to avoid such issues in the future. Once 
> again sorry for this misunderstanding and any feedback is welcome.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> _______________________
> Technical Staff
> .prTLD
> 787.372.3804 - 787.689.5868
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Andrews wrote:
> > In message <a06240802c6d0c883511d@[192.168.1.102]>, Edward Lewis writes:
> >   
> >> Ok, I've about had it with the tone of this thread.
> >>
> >> At 12:17 +1000 9/12/09, Mark Andrews wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Actually there is blame all round.
> >>>       
> >> I think this is uncalled for and is detrimental to the list.
> >>     
> >
> > Did all the other users of ITAR successfully follow this key rollover?
> > Did all the other users of ITAR fail to follow this key rollover?
> > Would they admit it if they did?
> >
> > I know I took several days to update my trusted-key clause for PR
> > in my named.conf's.  They are all updated manually.  If I wasn't
> > asking PR directly, by doing DNSKEY queries, but instead used ITAR's
> > collection I would have not followed the key rollover.
> >
> > PR should have updated ITAR immediately.  They didn't.  PR should
> > have taken their delay into account before removing the old key.
> > They didn't.  2 days was not reasonable when every other key rollover
> > took ~1 month.
> >
> > ITAR should be providing guidance on how often to poll.  They didn't.
> > No TAR can be reliable without this guidance because nobody can
> > know what to expect.
> >
> > PR rolled keys faster than any other TLD has ever rolled keys in
> > the past once they went operational (GOV rolled sub 24 while testing).
> > PR rolled keys much faster than the recommended timings in RFC 5011.
> > Weekly polling was quite reasonable based on RFC 5011 and historic
> > TLD key rollover periods.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >   
> >> -- 
> >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> -
> >> Edward Lewis
> >> NeuStar                    You can leave a voice message at +1-571-434-546
> 8
> >>
> >> As with IPv6, the problem with the deployment of frictionless surfaces is
> >> that they're not getting traction.
> >>     
> 
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Mark Andrews, ISC
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