IETF Logo Mail Archive

[DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-19

Mukund Sivaraman <muks@mukund.org> Fri, 08 May 2026 16:44 UTC

Return-Path: <muks@mukund.org>
X-Original-To: dnsop@mail2.ietf.org
Delivered-To: dnsop@mail2.ietf.org
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4287BEB4EBE2 for <dnsop@mail2.ietf.org>; Fri, 8 May 2026 09:44:46 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ietf.org; s=ietf1; t=1778258686; bh=9B4f+SCq8STuRIRnxjKtb5v4us6WdUHpQ7UE3pMrBTE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=VVgTWkypNO9rdIlf959C2hnkieSN4oYdVPpZqAxwfvMvrD7b7ng4o89M7hdt/nANq vkNi4Si6IEwq9j2G2SAI+fsWOzgGy0O1RFDO1I5db1kH5E0ePGMx7WU7hCChDRtK+o BZs2Tsqa28xZf/QcrTHsRoxxN/RQgyMDP16CMfNo=
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ietf.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.101
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: mail2.ietf.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mukund.org
Received: from mail2.ietf.org ([166.84.6.31]) by localhost (mail2.ietf.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LY0o802u8FlJ for <dnsop@mail2.ietf.org>; Fri, 8 May 2026 09:44:42 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx.mukund.org (mx.mukund.org [IPv6:2a01:4f8:13a:28c1:1::d8]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B5E5EB4EBC8 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Fri, 8 May 2026 09:44:42 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Sat, 09 May 2026 00:44:38 +0800
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mukund.org; s=mail; t=1778258681; bh=9B4f+SCq8STuRIRnxjKtb5v4us6WdUHpQ7UE3pMrBTE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=nhflIR03kby//TfUxB8IHopevbYqyWBPg3mzlJavX64Dg8BIt9CJglpGPJsI1V4s2 Pyg/GmxZ9E2Rwf++EXohoppePUmX1wDcqga0UMSNO6VGIkq9ATLnX5eIlSR3fEcUvv p6Zsw0oJHv1lqjudjIta/ZfUnCRHYlSaDPjN6ttuVJ7tdTXXrEmg1mh2huNljTrcXP DVtzuz+RomOcXCusD7sgIDi/irBNVTLMZ79WzyblrBTlalsLnI1grNiyf+LSBxzz/z 5UizWb7vs9ontj7pHzESzbhTPvfETIOmNb9jKoQgzHwamUf+HPeD0y3XqsXK/SP2wo W5SwXVmipzVug==
From: Mukund Sivaraman <muks@mukund.org>
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Message-ID: <af4S9qW-LHOdQwQF@p5>
References: <PH0PR11MB49665D117EA1C0C920A1ED0FA93E2@PH0PR11MB4966.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <CAFpG3geNkMs=_HeeirUcRX2-GXW5wEHZiYTLUj0Q_5CYVeVmWQ@mail.gmail.com> <SA2PR11MB4972BEA47D1E95384D5A82AFA93D2@SA2PR11MB4972.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <af4QDrlZ-5hCfL_c@p5>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="x/f4UeZbpHGALNIT"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <af4QDrlZ-5hCfL_c@p5>
Message-ID-Hash: TTYTBQXJMOM3XYSXE62OABW6EGPPVLOK
X-Message-ID-Hash: TTYTBQXJMOM3XYSXE62OABW6EGPPVLOK
X-MailFrom: muks@mukund.org
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-dnsop.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>, "dnsop@ietf.org WG" <dnsop@ietf.org>, Dan Wing <danwing@gmail.com>, "neil.cook@noware.co.uk" <neil.cook@noware.co.uk>, Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>, Benno Overeinder <benno@nlnetlabs.nl>
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6
Precedence: list
Subject: [DNSOP] Re: AD review of draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-19
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/vjDMW6PUmrqzBamfZZcHJ6jPcS8>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:dnsop-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:dnsop-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:dnsop-leave@ietf.org>

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 12:32:14AM +0800, Mukund Sivaraman wrote:
> A DNS message is not the appropriate place for this kind of
> localization. Space is at a premium (64kB is all there is for the whole
> message). India has 22 official languages for example, and it would be
> absurd to have as many translations encoded in an EDNS option.
> 
> The objective should be that the language used in the justification text
> and organization name is indicated, which it appears the draft provides
> for.

Having said this, I realise that the structured-dns-errors draft only
returns the JSON for empty answers (where filtering/blocking/censoring)
has occurred. So there ought to be space in the 64kB in these cases.

However, this localization still seems like it doesn't belong a DNS
response.

		Mukund

v2.46.0 | Report a Bug | By Email | System Status