Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is still not useful

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Tue, 03 November 2020 22:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-only is still not useful
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In article <1A141A5B-FD68-4991-BD90-DFE7EFAED49D@hopcount.ca> you write:
>I am familiar with the contents of that blog post and the circumstances surrounding it. My position on the usefulness of
>this draft has not changed. See below for more detail.

Hi. I'm not Joe but I have a CZDS account. As I said back in August,
while there are lots of zones that are delegation-mostly, that is not
the same as being delegation-only. It is simply true that most TLDs
are delegation-only, and this hack is not useful.

I grepped through the downloaded contracted zone files for signed A
and AAAA records and found over 32,000 of them in over 200 TLDs. The
list of TLDs and counts are below, or you can find the whole set at
https://www.iecc.com/signedglue.txt

There are also _nicname._tcp SRV records in TLDs including .am .at.
ax. be. bg. biz. ch. cl. co. de. dk. fo. fr. gg. hu. ie. is. and at
least a dozen others.

Beyond that, there are 17,000 signed MX records in the .name zone and probably
other oddities if I looked further.

R's,
John

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