Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Fri, 22 March 2019 18:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator
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> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:29 PM, Brian Dickson <brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com>; wrote:
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> I realize, expressiveness adds complexity. However, it does avoid assumptions and overloading.
> 
> The main criteria is agreement on client vs server (i.e. standardize this stuff), and possibly also add the network as another party involved (for upstream transit ISP vs local ISP), if they have differing policies for allowing offsite/third-party DoH or DoT.

So my thoughts on this real quick: one of the reasons many people are using centralized services like 8.8.8.8 (for example) is its complex to run these servers properly. 

I’m worried about this additional complexity breaking the camels back, or deployment being relegated to those of us that may have overly complex home networks. 

The options and matrix add in complexity when a simple approach is likely desired or needed. 

The small networks that do not run their own servers won’t change. The medium where it’s on the bubble will further centralize. Is this what is needed in the community?

- Jared