Re: [DNSOP] List conduct

[Paul Vixie <[e-mail]>]

see below inline.

Masataka Ohta wrote on 2022-04-21 05:59:
> Suzanne Woolf wrote:
> 
>> ...
> 
> That's simply wrong.
> 
> As I, to confirm the freedom speech in IETF, explicitly confirmed
> destructive harsh criticisms are not "unprofessional" (w.r.t.
> the code) in
> 
>      https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/lBs5-1u3asjocT56PoQEdnv1m2g/
> 
> without resulting in SAAs' actions. There was no one who
> argued against me that the statement were "unprofessional".
> There was no one who argued against me that the statement
> were "inappropriate" nor "impolite", which means such
> destructive statements as
> 
>      IPv6 with unnecessarily lengthy 16B addresses without
>      valid technical reasoning only to make network
>      operations prohibitively painful is a garbage protocol.
> 
> and
> 
>      LISP, which perform ID to locator mapping, which is
>      best performed by DNS, in a lot less scalable way than
>      DNS is a garbage protocol.
> 
> is protected by "the freedom of speech" and is not "unprofessional"
> and is fully acceptable.
i think the code of conduct may be inadequately worded. the above 
snippets in which ipv6 and lisp are designated "garbage protocols" have 
a productivity error in that neither is actionable. to use community 
resources and to take time and attention from other participants for no 
reason other than to publish invective is an abuse of position. even if 
i previously agreed with those statements or was persuaded to agree by 
those statements, there remains nothing i can do about that agreement. 
if i disagree then there is also nothing i can do.

we should make the best case we can for the positions we hope the WG 
will adopt, and answer any questions or misunderstandings of those 
positions during any subsequent debate. for example, here is my 
statement on the quality and utility of DNSSEC, along with others':

https://dnssec.net/why-deploy-dnssec

i raise this example because it's possible to criticize actionably. an 
oft-repeated criticism that paves no roads is a waste of everyone's time 
and is disrespectful on that basis.

my advice is to make your case and then make peace with the result.

-- 
P Vixie