Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Sat, 23 March 2019 11:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 12:26:47PM -0700, Paul Vixie wrote:
> 
> 
> Jared Mauch wrote on 2019-03-22 11:59:
> > So my thoughts on this real quick: one of the reasons many people are
> > using centralized services like 8.8.8.8 (for example) is its complex
> > to run these servers properly.
> 
> i think those optics are the motive, as you say.
> 
> however, it is not complex, as you also say.
> 
> the optics have been encouraged.
> 
> they are misleading.

I think for you and I it's less complex.  When I discuss things with
smaller ISPs running DNS isn't even on their list of things anymore, similar
to e-mail and other things where to run the service requires some scale.

I've seen some quite large providers be unable to configure some simple
DNS settings properly.  You have to also look no further than the
research that Mark Andrews and others have done about standards compliance.

I don't think it's as hard as it could be, but it's not as easy either.

- Jared

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