Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-05.txt
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Thu, 29 March 2018 22:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-05.txt
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On 3/29/18 5:02 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > However, I believe that this discussion is, however > unintentionally, a distraction from a far more important issue. > The way the DNS, and particularly DNS queries, are defined makes > the idea of a namespace for all labels starting with "_" very > difficult and potentially a source of confusion. While sorting > the registry by RRTYPE is an improvement over earlier versions, > the correct structure is to have subregistries by RRTYPE, each > with whatever keywords (starting with underscore) are > appropriate for use with it listed. I'll note that I made a similar suggestion back in August, but was convinced by people I presumed to know more about DNS than I do that I only thought this was okay because I had a completely incorrect notion of what DNS names really mean. See, e.g.: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/RsvttUAnSKI9SntCft8c84EGMT0 https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/ESNRdIBjRYiyVQcRx5zwGVdoHa8 https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/MZ35ZO8Uig9VXeeHCy1u-1LBtTI https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/T4DbIpeyTafs4KWx0Vji3e8Aw9I I still don't fully understand the nature of the objections I cite above or the assertions that having separate tables for different RRTYPEs is somehow broken. Based on my (admittedly lay) understanding of how DNS is used by other protocols, I agree with your proposal that having distinct tables for each RRTYPE makes far more sense than the current structure. /a
- [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-i… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… tjw ietf
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… P Vix
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-ie… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] redefining SRV, New Version Not… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] redefining SRV, New Version Not… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] redefining SRV, New Version Not… Ray Bellis
- [DNSOP] Attrleaf _second-Level modifications (was… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Attrleaf _second-Level modifications Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] New Version Notification for dr… John R Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Attrleaf _second-Level modifica… John Levine
- [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Kurt Andersen (b)
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… John C Klensin
- [DNSOP] _openpgpkey & _smimecert (was: Re: [art] … Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Paul Vixie
- [DNSOP] namespace and substring reservations (was… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Ray Bellis
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Dave Crocker
- [DNSOP] Additional uses of underscore labels (was… Martin Hoffmann
- Re: [DNSOP] Additional uses of underscore labels Dave Crocker
- [DNSOP] End-to-end _underscore arguments (was: Re… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Warren Kumari
- Re: [DNSOP] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop-attrl… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John C Klensin
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Adam Roach
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Dave Crocker
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John R. Levine
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… Paul Vixie
- Re: [DNSOP] [art] Another look - draft-ietf-dnsop… John R. Levine