Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale

Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> Tue, 02 July 2019 19:40 UTC

Return-Path: <suzworldwide@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571621206F9 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:40:50 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.998
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QHNr70AzDZJb for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qk1-x72e.google.com (mail-qk1-x72e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FB8B12016D for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qk1-x72e.google.com with SMTP id c70so15327336qkg.7 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=bd5Phpe1BQxXWWieXGONf/VaSN5M5AxWHz86dbEDu3Y=; b=DCp4KZMWEtWHtzoG2flGp1/Q5W4EhQqHzEYsWcwUY2ShlHbz3U41ot6KS2e4sn2JGA 9F8d82q0XUFITJJATF++63AmFqsb3JdehssIm+Yz82ekcOwFcBb7uOCfg8DBspLFHA1O YV0DUvUlbcrJZs/b/27VtuV9bEIfsFr298b5AVeA5TWjZNAB/+aQ0CXhYwcEJQfnAohl xpDuKtiylJQkaPTHsdSI8AZa6n0/mTZOoeSFen1gz4VVbRGgXbDIkE3QdZA5i+by3xJJ 02jaU8BNcKEIBJsl+8RzKfsxK4KsPwyCuSEL9v0D/Ehvw8K7CKrB8RfBtiUnpf+P9oYV HSSQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=bd5Phpe1BQxXWWieXGONf/VaSN5M5AxWHz86dbEDu3Y=; b=LeR+YULI3AGf0bhCgQ4ueM3YPYLjkpL/8b1dI+En9VPUq/97+JEB0IJT8LvZxqrsd/ ozjBSvr/80Ozv9pykachC8pVDCWrNd5be/lCRiswQ4O+16akCoqrgVdxHrqD+Bq11N1h YELKzTAnYkKwVEOEXFY5be2jwZb6nQhJTBUkqAFow3gD0VMvTQ/HoYIXC3RzS49HqZjI nvcFk9s++iKVETJvamJhlgeNcDXX2wTkEog1nSCSdDJVwd3OvwB32/hal4H+rTL8Yv/x HDtuJUOB/2LIvfAxQ6cW2sL6n+pKOlGBZKpGNKFJ8UZhalFJIB9CcVw5KXFKeNfhBeg8 bV9A==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWxQFlTRYVMUsyDu8k0Dsdsz0jvF+8VVFTlJWSvRN4zgBOIYcAb Zaoi62x4X07sF0VuRtS0NBY=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwZIO9lxY+uqpNEsxWyFoAbXpnVsAVdXv5C0dOVI3KwGhkgTUKvwFr7wkpZQmwW8Q75H8SNew==
X-Received: by 2002:a37:6808:: with SMTP id d8mr26322868qkc.478.1562096446810; Tue, 02 Jul 2019 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ?IPv6:2601:181:c381:29fe:b012:5713:47ba:492e? ([2601:181:c381:29fe:b012:5713:47ba:492e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n10sm6929441qke.72.2019.07.02.12.40.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Jul 2019 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\))
From: Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <EFB8E81A-5C83-465E-BBFC-DD2CC7407F06@icann.org>
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 15:40:43 -0400
Cc: dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <A44FC35C-49D1-444E-844B-C7D8BAC1004A@gmail.com>
References: <0F377589-B469-436F-BDF6-A92336D9ABC6@gmail.com> <EFB8E81A-5C83-465E-BBFC-DD2CC7407F06@icann.org>
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/x06wvSpft9c8qgQ4ZbaeohGiG9Y>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:40:50 -0000


> On Jul 2, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 2, 2019, at 6:36 AM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:
>> First, there have been several IPR disclosures against this document. The chairs believe all have been resolved.
> 
> Please clarify what "The chairs believe all have been resolved" means in this context. There are seven IPR statements on the document.

The seven IPR statements relate to disclosures regarding IP of three companies, Google, Akamai, and Cisco. In all three cases, those companies appear to have put licensing terms regarding the patents referred to into the data tracker; there are no disclosures that haven’t been acknowledged by the stated holders of the IP, or that the holder has promised to update later. 

Please see https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale for the details. 

Note also the boilerplate at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/. Neither the chairs nor the IETF has any opinion on the content of any of those statements, we do however note they exist.


Suzanne
(For the chairs)