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Re: [DNSOP] Privacy and DNSSEC

Shumon Huque <shuque@gmail.com> Wed, 29 April 2020 15:45 UTC

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From: Shumon Huque <shuque@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:45:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Privacy and DNSSEC
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On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:34 AM Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> > no. i mean that the decision to require a "clear path" for DNSSEC meant
> that
> > no DNSSEC-dependent application has ever received investment. for
> example,
> > DANE is interesting in the SMTP market because that's small and geeky,
> but
> > will never be adopted by the Web because there are too many endpoints who
> > cannot do stub validation and too many who will never be able to.
>
> You seem to think that the Web(PKI) not accepting DNSSEC was a technical
> problem. While there were technical issues, I don't think the acceptance
> or not had anything to do with technology.
>

Nope, I'm fully aware of all the non-technical issues and resistance (and
have described some of that in the article). But there were a small
contingent
of web folks that were interested in DANE, and that might have been enough
to gain an initial foothold there. You have to start somewhere.

Shumon.

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