Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers

Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Tue, 12 February 2019 19:43 UTC

Return-Path: <stephane@sources.org>
X-Original-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2013130DC8 for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:43:11 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OBup903JQjPq for <dnsop@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:43:10 -0800 (PST)
Received: from ayla.bortzmeyer.org (ayla.bortzmeyer.org [92.243.4.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6F85130DD8 for <dnsop@ietf.org>; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 11:43:09 -0800 (PST)
Received: by ayla.bortzmeyer.org (Postfix, from userid 10) id A8437A0431; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:43:06 +0100 (CET)
Received: by mail.sources.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D885B190673; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:41:38 +0100 (CET)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 20:41:38 +0100
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
Cc: dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <20190212194138.ycqvjlg7g7yrm6jy@sources.org>
References: <2019021215560470371417@cnnic.cn> <20190212083908.w5cwgtmypkjwmqnd@nic.fr> <ecfdb33d-7925-f762-6788-68b7a659a3d8@redbarn.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <ecfdb33d-7925-f762-6788-68b7a659a3d8@redbarn.org>
X-Transport: UUCP rules
X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 9.6
X-Charlie: Je suis Charlie
User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/xDjY6yUpuPXVXgdmMZPmBbhooRY>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] extension of DoH to authoritative servers
X-BeenThere: dnsop@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF DNSOP WG mailing list <dnsop.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsop@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop>, <mailto:dnsop-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 19:43:12 -0000

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 08:32:28AM -0800,
 Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>; wrote 
 a message of 39 lines which said:

> i require all visitors, family members, employees, and apps to use
> the control plane i have constructed, which includes DNS
> surveillance and control.

Reminds me of a sentence which is awfully true: "applications on the
Internet now have to use the techniques of the botnets, just to work".