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[DNSOP] Re: [core] Re: Fwd: WG Adoption Call for draft-lenders-core-coap-dtls-svcb

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To: Martine Sophie Lenders <martine.lenders@tu-dresden.de>, "core@ietf.org" <core@ietf.org>, "dnsop@ietf.org" <dnsop@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [core] Re: Fwd: WG Adoption Call for draft-lenders-core-coap-dtls-svcb
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 12:29:11 +0000
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Subject: [DNSOP] Re: [core] Re: Fwd: WG Adoption Call for draft-lenders-core-coap-dtls-svcb
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Hi Martine, 

Please see inline. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Martine Sophie Lenders <martine.lenders@tu-dresden.de>
> Envoyé : mardi 30 juillet 2024 12:43
> À : core@ietf.org; dnsop@ietf.org; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Objet : Re: [core] Re: Fwd: WG Adoption Call for draft-lenders-
> core-coap-dtls-svcb
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> On 29.07.24 13:56, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> > Hi Carsten, all,
> >
> > There is a mismatch between what is claimed in the
> abstract/into vs.
> > core documents. Concretely, when reading “This document
> specifies the
> > usage of Service Parameters..” or “This document specifies
> which
> > information from SvcParams ..”, I thought this is a discussion
> about the
> > applicability of existing parameters per
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/dns-svcb/dns-svcb.xhtml to
> CoAP.
> > However, the doc focuses on alpn. It seems to me that the main
> > contribution is to register an ALPN ID for CoAP over DTLS
> (i.e., Section
> > 5.1).
> 
> Noted, we will adapt the presentation for -01.

[Med] Thanks.

> 
> > Is there any specific reason why this request is not made as
> part of
> > I-D.ietf-core-dns-over-coap?
> 
> We thought about this, but in the end, CoAP over DTLS is used in
> other
> contexts than just DNS over CoAP. Given that CoAP over TLS
> defines its
> ALPN ID in its RFC, and CoAP over DTLS was just too early for
> that, we
> thought it's better to have the ALPN ID for CoAP over DTLS to be
> its own
> document.

[Med] I would agree with that reasoning if there were more specifics discussed in the document. However, all what the doc does is to register a new ALPN ID in a registry that follows "Expert Review" policy. 

Keeping the registration as part of I-D.ietf-core-dns-over-coap has the merit to bind it to a case that motivated the registration. Doing so does not restrict by any means the applicability of that ID. Note that the registry is authoritative by itself when there is a need to refer to "co" in other contexts.

Thanks.

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