Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: [Add] new draft: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 16 July 2019 03:53 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:53:12 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: [Add] new draft: draft-grover-add-policy-detection-00
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 8:14 AM Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:

> On Monday, 15 July 2019 02:17:04 UTC Rob Sayre wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 6:59 PM Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> wrote:
> > > ...
> >
> > I'm surprised that you seem to view DoH as a problem. I mean, everyone
> knows
> > that TLS and IPSEC are compromised by determined attackers, ...
>
> if you know a way that modern TLS 1.3 can be compromised by MiTM


I think some parties just ask for the certs, if they can't acquire them due
to negligence.



> , i'd like to
> know more. a lot of us are moving from MiTM to explicit outbound proxy
> with an
> internally trusted key in order to fulfill our corporate or regulatory
> obligations.
>
> > but I didn't know
> > it was a continued sore spot. If you have more to say, I would like to
> hear
> > it.
>
> the introduction of the DoH RFC explains that this protocol is designed to
> prevent interference by on-path actors in dns operations. i am a
> committed,
> determined on-path interferer, both for parental controls at home and
> corporate controls at $dayjob.
>

This response is disappointing to me, but I have to congratulate its
directness.

thanks,
Rob