Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP
william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com> Fri, 16 September 2016 18:24 UTC
Return-Path: <chinese.apricot@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: dnsoverhttp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: dnsoverhttp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DDA12B26E
for <dnsoverhttp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.699
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1,
HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001]
autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id WMsBfqEWBS0X for <dnsoverhttp@ietfa.amsl.com>;
Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com
[IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232])
(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
(No client certificate requested)
by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D6612B234
for <dnsoverhttp@ietf.org>; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id q92so34476300ioi.1
for <dnsoverhttp@ietf.org>; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to
:cc; bh=vdQsnFryihktBeQ9TP99s4k/FoVEwJyFJjtpZ92nQ7Q=;
b=EAPpfv5m6fU4XKrbHMZgkVTPhPHMd10Aij1SP5JGDeIWv35muvNJnvty1xhxDiJ0mj
8Q/CQClGRDfQ7YcPxrwK9EGulwdvwrERsniBurVzDV8wITyuTPa/Lamu2Fhpp6r3erak
74aBnVbA2vq6DyAc8TiLdUAEr3Efi3itkS+A5nkIOLpuGFhn+olyGNgROaZdpsn5I/qd
8PwAnYziMXPehlN8CoL5xZsNOVI5qSOyfup91szqTPtDxtG7tBFrUefLZJRIYtrFQKuJ
AbxNcM3yyQZyftsqc24Qz3rdwTZ4YUeclxAoHzaGBYbLAh8iqFuh+sBDLE+G/aqH10sr
6TXg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date
:message-id:subject:to:cc;
bh=vdQsnFryihktBeQ9TP99s4k/FoVEwJyFJjtpZ92nQ7Q=;
b=V4IsWluEmPSLfa65+QlP7Savgo22+XzlqWM/PWBljH7VwAgbMtSMgu7bnDXBGj6uPV
bcKll3FYZDZvZLgtfEzkklDo2iysAvkqmH2KurT42laXq4XFDGCBVrN0wN+QSx4Gv6uk
n1osLeYphtEv6x9dFc0hpS4JtTib1h6VffWkyE+fDrqg7mg3+qT3WC3QuyEpMoKgdH5u
ABsDq5FOGh4MpjlMkl36IxELgJEM+EAYX39CHKCrUU6yYrGZp+x8QohYbFXc2fHMW9w2
cSIE4q7RxRI4V+AoH5BAQKihYuENEB+WSpsTpXz3NOQxn0+7BQFONWyQzdrmzZ3J2ATw
37kg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMIWR/LD2dxBc+OfgS54QPM09KzonVmM0McKLP67IJ9yX02zQkQR9hcHxVriw5/vD9zhFBc/67MCqrzjQ==
X-Received: by 10.107.179.9 with SMTP id c9mr28036129iof.169.1474050292780;
Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:52 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.107.34.10 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CAOdDvNpuaD3iVhYM96yON4mPkAgrB9Cvxut_fn3wrMF1PQYEmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20160914150428.2bc82011@pallas.home.time-travellers.org>
<78341ca7-e348-b2f9-7c63-d4c6909ea11b@cs.tcd.ie>
<20160916120520.6f9c213a@pallas.home.time-travellers.org>
<CABkgnnW-oErQjPFVXBeXu0DHF6=EeRShe-csOCAgFOwn8HrFBA@mail.gmail.com>
<CAOdDvNpuaD3iVhYM96yON4mPkAgrB9Cvxut_fn3wrMF1PQYEmQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 11:24:51 -0700
Message-ID: <CACfw2hgEo7Wirdx-63wH7xFWuvhOHbv2PVTwDBbnjff2ZqKe-g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114857621511bd053ca41415
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsoverhttp/cQNJA5cNMCs2uzd21eikc49ByvM>
Cc: Shane Kerr <shane@time-travellers.org>,
"dnsoverhttp@ietf.org" <dnsoverhttp@ietf.org>,
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>,
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Subject: Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP
X-BeenThere: dnsoverhttp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion of DNS over HTTP <dnsoverhttp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/dnsoverhttp>,
<mailto:dnsoverhttp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsoverhttp/>
List-Post: <mailto:dnsoverhttp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dnsoverhttp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsoverhttp>,
<mailto:dnsoverhttp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:24:54 -0000
On Friday, 16 September 2016, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','martin.thomson@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> As a practical matter, I don't see IP subjectAltName ever being used. >> Better to retain the notion of a name, even if you don't use that name >> in the process of establishing a connection to the server. >> > > > I'd agree with that. Names can be useful for authentication without > needing to even loosely be bound to the addressing - especially for > bootstrap.. this is an established mode of operation for far more than > bootstrap - e.g. CONNECT tunnels through a hardcoded proxy. > > Then you run into the problem where the machine owner has given it a name and the DNS admin has given it a different name. Inevitably the cert will not be tied to the DNS name.
- [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Patrick McManus
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP George Michaelson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP George Michaelson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Martin Thomson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Patrick McManus
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Martin Thomson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP william manning
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Martin Thomson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP william manning