Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 15 September 2016 07:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP
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Hi Shane, I have two related questions for which I didn't get answers from your fine document. 1) Are folks using IP addresses or DNS names in the URLs they are de-referencing when using HTTP(S)? 2) Are there any functional reasons to ever specifically want DNS/HTTP, as opposed to DNS/HTTP/TLS? By functional I mean to exclude the obvious simplicity, performance and WebPKI-trust reasons why HTTP is "easier" than HTTP/TLS. BTW, the reason these are related is that if folks are using IP addresses for the requests, then our current inability to get WebPKI certs for IP addresses may be a functional motivation for preserving the ability to do DNS/HTTP in clear. From my POV it'd be a bit sad if we need to define yet another open-kimono/insecure way to do DNS, so I'd be happier were it safe to assume that the client can use a DNS name in the URL and can somehow figure out how to resolve that name to an IP address. But I don't know if that's a reasonable assumption. Cheers, S. On 14/09/16 14:04, Shane Kerr wrote: > Hello, > > I thought that people interested in this topic might find a draft > written by my colleagues and myself useful. It is a survey of various > DNS over HTTP techniques: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-shane-review-dns-over-http/ > > It needs to be updated, to reference Paul Hoffman's recent update to > his DNS JSON draft if nothing else: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hoffman-dns-in-json/ > > Cheers, > > -- > Shane > > > > _______________________________________________ > dnsoverhttp mailing list > dnsoverhttp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsoverhttp >
- [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Patrick McManus
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP George Michaelson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Tim Wicinski
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP George Michaelson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Shane Kerr
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Stephen Farrell
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Martin Thomson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Patrick McManus
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Martin Thomson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Ted Hardie
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Paul Hoffman
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP william manning
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP Martin Thomson
- Re: [dnsoverhttp] Survey of DNS over HTTP william manning