Re: [dnssd] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sctl-service-registration-02.txt

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 17 July 2018 20:15 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 16:14:39 -0400
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Subject: Re: [dnssd] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sctl-service-registration-02.txt
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Oh, this also adds text to the server behavior that simply requires that
the server check the validity of the SRP Update as a DNS uipdate as well as
an SRP update, since SRP update semantics are layered on top of DNS update
semantics.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> Tim pointed out that we need to protect the Service Instance Name as well
> as the Host Description with a KEY record, because FCFS naming has to
> protect both the service description and the host description.   Here are
> the changes:
>
> https://github.com/StuartCheshire/draft-sctl-service-registration/compare/
> ae53618d8231733701ccdda4d336692a529c9f6b...5c85181881b84ed1132d544e157df8
> da85874597
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:42 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>
>> The question of whether we update RFC6763 is basically "is there text
>> that is in RFC6763 that is no longer correct because of this document."  I
>> think the answer is no.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, just checking. So given that 6763 semi-defines service registration
>>> protocol as DNS Dynamic Update, should this document claim it updates 6763?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The title of RFC 6763 is DNS-Based Service Discovery.   So I tried to
>>> harmonize the document toward that—did I miss something?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How is DNS-Based Service Discovery different from DNS Service
>>>> Discovery?
>>>>
>>>> Is this meant to distinguish from RFC 6763?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2018, at 5:46 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BTW, the current version of the document on github now includes fixes
>>>> for all the points that have been raised other than the ones I said I
>>>> wasn't going to fix: https://github.com/Stuart
>>>> Cheshire/draft-sctl-service-registration
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't it be just a Host Description? Might be useful for a device
>>>>>> that just wants to register its name but doesn't (currently, or ever)
>>>>>> advertise any services...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good question.   What does the working group think?   :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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