Re: [dnssd] DNS-SD Discovery Proxy (name confirmed)

Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> Tue, 22 November 2016 13:50 UTC

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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
To: David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu>, "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>, Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com>
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Subject: Re: [dnssd] DNS-SD Discovery Proxy (name confirmed)
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Hi,

> On 18 Nov 2016, at 02:20, David Farmer <farmer@umn.edu> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 7:50 PM, STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com> wrote:
> > I suspect most people say “DNS-SD” rather than expanding it, in conversation
> > and in documents, so wouldn’t generally speak or read those words.
> >
> > Hopefully as IETF winds down we’ll get some other comments on this.  We
> > certainly have strong (unanimous in the room) consensus to rename from
> > Hybrid.
> 
> I'd really, really like to see "Discovery Proxy" kept in the name (DNS-SD Discovery Proxy). I'm working on a project in another organization that is defining a "Discovery Proxy" in its context, which synchs extremely closely with what this thingie here is doing in the context of DNS-SD. It makes it so much easier when people use the same terms to describe the same functionality independent of where it was invented. That really improves overall industry understanding of the concept.
> Barbara
> 
> +1 
> 
> Informally; DNS-SD Discovery Proxy
> Formally; Discovery Proxy for DNS-Based Service Discovery
> 
> But yes, DNS-Based Service Discovery Discovery Proxy is ugly, so just don't use that order of the words.

OK, I think we’ve confirmed consensus on the term DNS-SD Discovery Proxy.

Stuart, please do submit a final -06 using this name.

Best wishes,
Tim