Re: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-00.txt

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 24 October 2018 19:56 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:55:33 -0400
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Subject: Re: [dnssd] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-00.txt
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Hm, my recollection is that there was a long discussion on the mailing
list, and you were the odd man out.   In any case, SRP can be done over
DoT, so encryption is certainly possible if required.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 2:13 PM Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:

> If you were present in Montréal, you may remember that I supported this
> work for adoption but wanted to see the named changed.
>
> There didn’t seem to be any other responses one way or the other. Since I
> believe in rough consensus, it would be good to know if others feel the
> same.
>
> The discussion was then moved to the list and can be found in the archives.
>
> My main objection was that because it wasn’t possible to use encryption
> with this scheme, it was not a general purpose solution and had to be
> restricted to a subset of the use cases. Therefore, it should have a name
> that reflects it’s inherent limitations.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
> > On Oct 23, 2018, at 11:49 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> >
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Extensions for Scalable DNS Service
> Discovery WG of the IETF.
> >
> >        Title           : Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based
> Service Discovery
> >        Authors         : Stuart Cheshire
> >                          Ted Lemon
> >       Filename        : draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-00.txt
> >       Pages           : 19
> >       Date            : 2018-10-23
> >
> > Abstract:
> >   The Service Registration Protocol for DNS-Based Service Discovery
> >   uses the standard DNS Update mechanism to enable DNS-Based Service
> >   Discovery using only unicast packets.  This eliminates the dependency
> >   on Multicast DNS as the foundation layer, which greatly improves
> >   scalability and improves performance on networks where multicast
> >   service is not an optimal choice, particularly 802.11 (Wi-Fi) and
> >   802.15.4 (IoT) networks.  DNS-SD Service registration uses public
> >   keys and SIG(0) to allow services to defend their registrations
> >   against attack.
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnssd-srp/
> >
> > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-00
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-srp-00
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> >
> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >
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