[dnssd] Fwd: multicast over wifi discussion list
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From: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>
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Subject: [dnssd] Fwd: multicast over wifi discussion list
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Hi, See Mikael’s email below, which is relevant to us given Stuart’s presentation on yesterday (see https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sctl-service-registration-00). Tim > On 19 Jul 2017, at 17:57, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote: > > > Hi, > > please forward this if there are other parties or WGs that might have valuable knowledge in this. > > 1.5 years ago there was an email list created to discuss the issue of L1/L2 multicast packets having different delivery characteristics compared to unicast, on 802.11 and potentially other places. > > http://www.ieee802.org/11/email/stds-802-11/msg01838.html > > If you're interested in discussion on possible solution space for this, please consider subscribing. Possible outcomes is that IETF will re-design protocols to do less multicast, and/or new mechanisms would be proposed to make 802.11 (and other similar technologies) handle multicast better. > > There was a side meeting today with 10 people where this was discussed, and we're trying to restart this discussion, as it has been kind of stale the past year. > > Link to the email I sent to that list: > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mcast-wifi/muf8GqcTRzQubgHI-uc90aIC2YY > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se > > _______________________________________________ > MBONED mailing list > MBONED@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned >